The list of open questions of the domestic survellance program lists the actual number of people whose phones were wiretapped as a closely guarded secret. Seems like this amount will never be released until official Congress investigation, if ever, but we can make some estimates.
If we get back to this NY Times article and use some brains we can get some clue. We know that here were no efforts made to try to legalize the program officially and to pass the list through the special Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, even though this court is accustomed to massive privacy intrusions. Maybe there is no enough judges in the country to stamp all requests? Let see.
“Lists of phone numbers appeared to result from the agency’s computerized scanning of communications coming into and going out of the country for names and keywords that might be of interest”. So it’s confirmed that the so-called “Echelon” program, which tracks 3 billion communications daily, is involved. As we’ve read from link above US citizens make only 200 billion minutes of international calls per year. So the addition of domestic spying to the already existing global program is just, technically, a drop in the ocean and does not require any additional computational resources. Add here that “most intelligence officers lacked the training needed to safeguard Americans’ privacy and civil rights”. No wonder.
Back to numbers, we know that F.B.I agents were passed “thousands of tips a month” to check. If the artifical intelligence is capable to sort, say, 0.1% out from total calls as suspected terrorists, then we can estamate that the total of inspected calls runs onto millions per month. How many people are affected? If we estimate that there is an average of 10 calls per month per person then we get 100’s of thousands of people, or millions every year.
What does it mean? If you, personally, made at least one international phone call last year, be assured that it was, most likely, recorded and stored in the computer database and will be used in various data mining requests for years to come.
You are likely to be watched watched when you read this post as well. The conclusion is up to you now.
January 29, 2006 at 1:42 pm
iam not from america…but how can tap phones without court order ? in the land of democracy the “law” is supreme ! ….duuno why president acts like idiot !
January 30, 2006 at 6:24 pm
[…] This article tells the story that about 50% of americans are supporting being wiretapped in order to fight terrorism (also see here). Well, should we wonder? Yes at once, but if we remember that germans voted for Hitler, palestinians chose Hamas and russians embraced the bloody revolution, we should painfully accept that in public opinion war is often taking hand over peace, hate over love, fight over discussion. Even so-called “spiritual” people are often full of hate to anyone not belonging to their church. […]
February 3, 2006 at 9:25 am
[…] The conflict between free speech and religeous right is inevitable. Same way as muslims are burning the Danish flag the US is wiretapping phone calls of millions of its citizens. God knows what the computer database keeps about each of us, what we do, what we say, where we’ve being… […]
February 21, 2006 at 3:20 pm
Good post:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=59711
February 21, 2006 at 3:33 pm
Backlink to me:
http://dsground.blogspot.com/2006/02/doj-is-watching-you.html
Thanks!
March 2, 2006 at 1:08 am
Same way as muslims are burning the Danish flag the US is wiretapping phone calls of millions of its citizens.
I thought I’d repeat this statement only to show how silly this sounds.
What does burning flags have to do with wiretapping? When liberal hippies burn American flags at protests, is that the ‘Patriotic American’ thing to do?
Wiretapping program possibly affected millions of U.S. citizens
If you could point to some evidence to support this wild accusation, it would be helpful (not another blog, but actual evidence). By the way, Clinton also used ECHELON to eavesdrop. I might also add that we weren’t engaged in war then. It was actually used to spy on Americans, not to spy on terrorists, unless you consider Americans to be terrorists.
Why are you so afraid of Bush? It is so absolutely hilarious when you ask this in such a simple way.
I have no clue what your point here is because it does not even make sense. It is merely an unsuccessful attempt to persuade others that Bush is evil like a Nazi. You compare Abu-Ghraib to the Holocaust (which is utterly tasteless and lacking of any class whatsoever), and you compare the Bush Administration to Hamas and the Nazis. What’s next? Are you going to try to convince people that the Pope is the Anti-Christ?
By the way, speaking of Nazis and the Holocaust, who defeated the Germans and freed the tortured and imprisoned innocent Jewish people? Americans did. Who freed all of southeast Asia from Imperial Japan? America did. Who freed almost all of Europe from Soviet communism? America did. Who has freed 50,000,000 Arabs from tyrannical dictatorship, thus allowing democracy to thrive, which will most likely spread throughout the entire region? We did. Who freed all of the slaves in America? And what leaders did all of this? It was the leaders who at the time, were considered scoundrels. They were all hated, especially by the left. Lincoln, Truman, Reagan, and Bush II were all hated and called ‘war mongers’. Well, let’s look back at history from our 21st century perspective. Lincoln, Truman, and Reagan are now all considered to be some of the best presidents our nation has ever had. They didn’t let others bully them. They did what they knew was the right thing to do, despite claims of unpopularity, which history also shows, was grossly exaggerated.
Did Bill Clinton help the world like this? Actually, he turned a deaf ear and a blind eye, while he was busy receiving fellatio by an intern, and lying to every American about it.
How will Bush be remembered later on in history? He will at least be remembered as a president who wasn’t a phony arrogant womanizer who cared about nothing more than his own legacy. If he cared so much about his legacy, he never would have went to war, in risk of not being reelected. That alone, can tell you that this guy has integrity.
Bush II will be remembered for freeing at least 50,000,000. He will be remembered as one of the American heroes that fought against tyranny and was outspoken about democracy for all humans, not just Americans.
How can America be so arrogant to say that others do not deserve to be defended from oppression and tyranny?
How can we turn a blind eye, or a deaf ear, like Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and the entire U.N.? That is truly an abuse of power!
You really have a lot to learn about class.
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December 7, 2008 at 5:02 pm
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