It was recently enough of indicators that the recession is about to happen:
- Widening credit spreads
- Decline in the rate of change of temporary service jobs
- Decline of ISM down to 50
- Sharp decline of imports
- Sharp decline of short-term treasury yields
That’s more that enough to tell that the recession is about to start or already started, but the time accuracy is poor. It can give you the recession start day all the way from October to February. But I’d like to know exactly.
But now I finally got a final confirmation. Yes, it could be a year-end distortion, but I’d like to see the flow of short-term credit in the economy.
I’m adding together the two elephants in the room: commercial paper and total bank credit. Up to now the sharp decline in CP was compensated by bank credit. CP declined by $342 bln from July to Dec 5th. The bank credit increased by $514 bln from July to Dec 5th. So the total credit was growing.
Now the data for December. The CP declined by $5 bln from Dec 5th to 12. The bank credit also declined by $44 bln from 5th to 12. Ups, we’ve got the drain of $49 bln in the first week of December. Then the CP declined by another $54 bln from 12 to 19 and banking credit is not available yet, but you know, I suspect it’s not going to increase anymore.
I know, some people will say that Feds and ECB are adding money to the system. No, they are not, they are not adding anything.
That’s it, that was a final nail in the economy coffin and we are in recession for the last three weeks. Now let’s see how long it will take the stock market to catch up. I think it was especially stupid this time ๐ Ah, as usual ๐
December 24, 2007 at 11:35 pm
Is that your final answer?
Merry Christmas, Don
December 25, 2007 at 12:35 am
Thank you for the interesting analysis. You’re the first blogger (first that I’ve seen, anyway) to mention the recent overall credit contraction.
Merry Christmas!
James
December 25, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Merry Christmas!
Don, no, not final. Maybe 70%
I want to see one more week of bank credit and then it will be 90%
December 26, 2007 at 4:13 pm
After quite bad holiday retail sails I bump up my estimate to 80%
December 27, 2007 at 4:21 pm
I don’t believe official inflation or employment statistics. I was wondering if you have and alternative stats or fiddle factors to get a more correct GDP deflator.
For lack of an alternative I follow Russ Winter’s dictum that the first two percent of GDP are crap.
Jim
December 27, 2007 at 6:23 pm
>>> I donโt believe official inflation or employment statistics.
Me too. But let me stress that I do not believe that they mislead anyone on purpose. I think they have models and formulas. At turning points those formulas produce bogus results. They tweak the formulas. Result are bogus again. And so one.
For the same reason I do not believe that alternative, or “shadow”, statistics has any value.
Unless those “shadow” statisticians hire 10,000 people and make them run through the country and collect better data then government I won’t listen to them.
What to do?
I think the official data 6-month moving averages are more or less correct after the latest month is fully revised, which by itself takes few months. So at this chart:
http://briefing.com/Investor/Public/Calendars/EconomicReleases/employ.htm
the moving average will give you more or less correct data up to September or so. All numbers after September are bogus.
December 28, 2007 at 1:55 am
hmmm….before we cry ‘the sky is falling’, wouldn’t it make sense to look at what constitutes a recession – 2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth…we have yet to go negative, and last quater’s report was 4.9%, well above expectations…
With this said, I won’t argue the strong possibility of an oncoming recession, we’re just not there yet!
J
December 28, 2007 at 10:43 am
Jeff, in Q3 the official chain deflator is 1.0%. Do you believe that? I think this 4.9% GDP is totally bogus.
I have no doubt that when the decline starts it will take much more than 2 quarters to clean-up the mess.
And about “sky is falling” I disagree as well. Recessions are good for the economy, which I wrote several times here, and this recession is welcome as any other recession.
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